here is the exchange of emails of kuya third and maam betsy.

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Good day!

Appended below is the exchange of e-mails between the UP Administration via Vice Chancellor for Student Affairs Elizabeth Enriquez and myself regarding the recently released draft of the UP Diliman Code of Student Conduct. (Please go to http://upd.edu.ph/~ovcsa/draft-student-code.html for the draft and primer of the Code.)

With this, the UP Admin has categorically said that this draft will not be up for discussion with the Board of Regents this month. This is because:

1. Comments and suggestions are still to be submitted by students;
2. The consultation schedule with students is yet to be set and announced; and
3. The draft, before it even gets to the BOR, must first be approved by the Universtiy Council (the body composed of all UP Diliman faculty).

I hope that we would all read through, study, and discuss the draft. Even with our course requirement deadlines and exams being right around the corner, everyone is still highly encouraged to send comments and recommendations to this e-mail address: student-code@up.edu.ph.

Please do wait for further announcements regarding the actual schedule of consultations of students with the review committee.

Thank you and God bless with the finals!

Third Bagro
Herminio C. Bagro III
Chairperson, University Student Council 2008-2009
4th Year, Juris Doctor, UP College of Law
thirdbagro02@yahoo.com

From: third bagro
To: elizabeth enriquez
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:47:37 PM
Subject: Draft Student Code

Good afternoon Ma’am!

From our past conversations regarding the draft of the UP Diliman Student Code, I remember that we understood that students would be given ample time to discuss, research, and recommend to improve the draft even further. Although I am personally assured by your word that indeed a schedule for consultation would be set, I think there is a need to set the record straight behind the release of the draft code in UP, especially in the light of feedback that there is a possibility that the code would be discussed in the March 26 BOR meeting.

This way, all discussion and debate as to the proposed code would be insulated from untoward insinuations, and therefore yield more objective, long-term solutions to the problems that the drafters sought to correct.

Please know that we are with you in your earnest efforts to unify and rationalize rules and regulations pertinent to UP students. Thank you.

Third Bagro
Herminio C. Bagro III
Chairperson, University Student Council 2008-2009
4th Year, Juris Doctor, UP College of Law

—– Forwarded Message —-
From: elizabeth enriquez
To: third bagro
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:16:46 PM
Subject: Re: Draft Student Code

Dear Third,

Thank you for your email and for believing in my word. Frankly, I am surprised (also slightly amused, I must admit) by your news that there is a possibility that the draft Code will be discussed in the March 26 BOR meeting. You can check with Shan. She must already have the agenda of the March BOR. There is not even a shadow of the draft Code in it. It didn’t even occur to us to attempt to bring it to that high a level of discussion at this point.

The review committee is planning a series of consultations with students and faculty. However, given the timing – finals almost here and the semester ending soon – we cannot yet set the dates. Rest assured that we will announce it when the dates are certain. Meantime, we hope to hear as many comments as possible through the email provided for the purpose. We figured that written comments and suggestions are very helpful because they are easier to refer to if and when we do further revisions to the draft.

BTW, after the consultations, as I’ve told you in the past, the committee will go back to the drawing board, so to speak, if necessary. Then, even before the draft Code reaches the level of the BOR, it will have to go through the University Council. So you see, it’s a long way to the BOR. Unfortunately, I doubt that this will all happen before your term is over.

I appreciate your checking with me before believing rumors.

ELEnriquez

From: third bagro
To: elizabeth enriquez
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:33:40 PM
Subject: Re: Draft Student Code

Thanks for clarifying Ma’am. May I ask if it’s okay with you if I forward our exchange (sans your email address) to the USC e-group for everyone’s information?

Also Ma’am, could it be possible that a USC representative (at least the USC Chair) be made part of the Student Code Committee?

Third Bagro
Herminio C. Bagro III
Chairperson, University Student Council 2008-2009
4th Year, Juris Doctor, UP College of Law
thirdbagro02@yahoo.com

—– Forwarded Message —-
From: elizabeth enriquez
To: third bagro
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:51:50 AM
Subject: Re: Draft Student Code

Hi Third,

Sure, it’s ok to forward to whoever you think will want or benefit from the info.

As to the Student Code Committee membership, what do you mean exactly? What exactly do you have in mind?

The committee that has been reviewing the various rules and has just presented a draft code to replace those old rules specified in the primer were appointed by the Chancellor almost three years ago. We have been working on the various stages of the review for that length of time. No offense meant, but please understand that student discipline is the province of the faculty, and that’s why the review committee is made up only of faculty. However, this does not mean that we we shall not consider the sentiments of the students. That’s why there have been several moves to consult students, such as in the research we commissioned before the actual review and the process of consultation that we had just begun now by uploading the draft on the UP Diliman website. This is when the students can give their input and the review committee is certainly open to further revisions.

And before anyone misconstrues these words again, the consultation process includes convocation(s) with students. Hindi pa nga lang naitatakda ang mga petsa. Pero ngayon pa lang, sana mag-comment na ang mga estudyante kasi tingin namin mas napag-iisipan ang mga komento kapag nakasulat kaysa mga harapang usapan na minsan ay nauuwi sa maaanghang na salita na nagdudulot ng hindi magandang pagtitinginan, na hindi nakatutulong sa magandang samahan. Hindi naman lahat nakukuha sa palakasan ng boses at paanghangan ng salita. Sana naman hindi kami tingnan ng mga estudyante na parang kaaway. Mga kaparis kami ng magulang na naghahanap ng mabuting paraan para maisaayos ang sambahayan. Sa karamihan nga ng mga sambahayan, hindi naman kinukunsulta ng magulang ang anak kung paano siya didisiplinahin. Pero sa Unibersidad, kinukunsulta natin ang mga estudyante dahil sa paggalang natin sa mga demokratikong pamamaraan.

If what you mean is membership in the committee that will manage the consultation process, there is no such committee (yet) but I’ll discuss it with the review committee.

Thanks, Third. Stay in touch.

ELEnriquez

From: third bagro
To: elizabeth enriquez
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:55:14 AM
Subject: Re: Draft Student Code

Thank you Ma’am. Your words are appreciated. =)

Regarding the Student Code Committee membership, what I was thinking was along the lines of other ad hoc committees that the Chancellor created (like the one in which I’m member, concerning the resettlement of residents at the would-be Engineering Complex). Maybe it would be best if a student representative (from the USC) be made part of the committee (even at this point in time) so that the students would be apprised of its decision-making processes when it considers recommendations.

Although adequate consultation mechanisms would be put in place thru convocations, submission of written recommendations, etc., I think Ma’am the actual placing of a person representing the main stakeholders in the committee bodes well of student empowerment especially in matters that bear direct impact on their lives.

Apart from this request/query, I will eagerly await po for information from you as to when the consultation rounds would be set. Thank you very much.

Respectfully,

Third Bagro
Herminio C. Bagro III
Chairperson, University Student Council 2008-2009
4th Year, Juris Doctor, UP College of Law
thirdbagro02@yahoo.com

From: elizabeth enriquez
To: third bagro
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 12:09:31 PM
Subject: Re: Draft Student Code

Hi Third,

I understand. I will try to discuss this ASAP with the review committee and the Chancellor. Problem is everyone’s so busy with the end of semester stuff. Anyway, will get back to you soon.

ELEnriquez

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